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    H.R.2411 -- Reduce America's Debt Now Act of 2011 (Introduced in House - IH)

    Well, there may be some fools out there that want to "volunteer", but I won't be. They won't even be giving you a tax break if you did give them some of your hard earned cash. I'm sure there will be some sheeple that will fall for this...if it even passes. Look for other ways they will want and get your money. After all, it is our fault that they are spending our money. Also, how much will this cost the employers? The employers will be responsible for withholding the money and sending it in to the Feds. If the employers are late they will likely have a penalty fee of some sort. I'm sure IRS will have to write some new rules as well into the 13,000 pages of current rules. We need to watch and make sure they don't change voluntary to mandatory. Oh wait, I'm sure they wouldn't even think of doing that! There are so many things wrong with this. These people of CONgress need to be voted out. (Rant off)

    Here is the proposed bill:

    112th CONGRESS

    1st Session

    H. R. 2411
    To provide for an employee election on Form W-4 to have amounts deducted and withheld from wages to be used to reduce the public debt.


    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    July 6, 2011
    Mr. CRAWFORD (for himself, Mr. TIBERI, Mr. FINCHER, Mr. LANDRY, Mr. DENHAM, Mr. DOLD, Mr. FLORES, Mr. GRIFFIN of Arkansas, Mr. AUSTIN SCOTT of Georgia, Mr. HUIZENGA of Michigan, Mr. PALAZZO, and Mr. GUINTA) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Ways and Means


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    A BILL
    To provide for an employee election on Form W-4 to have amounts deducted and withheld from wages to be used to reduce the public debt.


    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

    SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

    This Act may be cited as the `Reduce America's Debt Now Act of 2011'.

    SEC. 2. VOLUNTARY WITHHOLDING FROM PAYROLL FOR REDUCTION OF THE PUBLIC DEBT.

    (a) In General- An employee may elect for an employer to deduct and withhold upon the payment of wages by such employer amounts to be used to reduce the public debt.

    (b) Requirement of Withholding- Every employer making payment of wages shall deduct and withhold upon such wages any amounts so elected, and shall pay such amounts over to the Secretary of the Treasury at such times and in such manner as the Secretary shall by regulation prescribe.

    (c) Transfers to Account To Reduce Public Debt- The Secretary shall, not less frequently than monthly, transfer to the special account established by section 3113(d) of title 31, United States Code, amounts equal to the amounts paid over under subsection (b).

    (d) Definitions and Special Rules- For purposes of this section--

    (1) WAGES, EMPLOYEE, ETC- The terms `wages', `employee', and `employer' shall have the respective meanings given such terms under section 3401(a) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986.

    (2) AMOUNTS NOT DEDUCTIBLE- Notwithstanding section 170(c)(1) of such Code, no deduction shall be allowed for any amount deducted and withheld from wages under subsection (a).

    (3) ELECTION TO BE INCLUDED ON WITHHOLDING EXEMPTION CERTIFICATE- Not later December 31, 2011, the Secretary of the Treasury shall modify withholding exemption certificates (described in section 3402(f)(2) of such Code) to include the election under subsection (a). The Secretary shall include on such certificates a reasonably conspicuous statement that any amounts deducted and withheld from wages under subsection (a) are not deductible as charitable contributions for Federal income tax purposes.

    (e) Effective Date- This section shall apply to remuneration paid after December 31, 2011.

    SEC. 3. EXCLUSION OF PUBLIC DEBT WITHHOLDING FROM WAGES.

    (a) Social Security Taxes-

    (1) AMENDMENT TO 1986 CODE- Subsection (a) of section 3121 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by striking `or' at the end of paragraph (22), by striking the period at the end of paragraph (23) and inserting `; or', and by inserting after paragraph (23) the following new paragraph:

    `(24) any amount deducted and withheld pursuant to an election under section 2 of the Reduce America's Debt Now Act of 2011.'.

    (2) AMENDMENT TO SOCIAL SECURITY ACT- Section 209(a) of the Social Security Act is amended by striking `or' at the end of paragraph (19), by striking the period at the end of paragraph (20) and inserting `; or', and by inserting after paragraph (20) the following new paragraph:

    `(21) Any amount deducted and withheld pursuant to an election under section 2 of the Reduce America's Debt Now Act of 2011.'.

    (b) Unemployment Taxes- Subsection (b) of section 3306 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by striking `or' at the end of paragraph (19), by striking the period at the end of paragraph (20) and inserting `; or', and by inserting after paragraph (20) the following new paragraph:

    `(21) any amount deducted and withheld pursuant to an election under section 2 of the Reduce America's Debt Now Act of 2011.'.

    (c) Wage Withholding- Subsection (a) of section 3401 of such Code is amended by striking `or' at the end of paragraph (22), by striking the period at the end of paragraph (23) and inserting `; or', and by inserting after paragraph (23) the following new paragraph:

    `(24) any amount deducted and withheld pursuant to an election under section 2 of the Reduce America's Debt Now Act of 2011.'.

    (d) Effective Date- The amendments made by this section shall apply to remuneration made after December 31, 2011.
    Protecting the sheep from the wolves that want them, their family, their money and full control of our Country!

    Guns and gear are cool, but bandages stop the bleeding!

    ATTENTION: No trees or animals were harmed in any way in the sending of this message, but a large number of electrons were really ticked off!

    NO 10-289!

  • #2
    In all honesty, I'd pay something like a sales tax for a period of 1 or if necessary 2 years to pay of the national debt, if I was sure our congress couldn't spend it on something else and make it permanent. (Like they did SS Trust Fund money.

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    • #3
      I don't see anything changing in years.
      Until we get enough of the "old timers" out of congress and send a message to DC they won't change their ways.
      I don't believe the one's that got us into this mess, can get us out.
      A desire changes nothing, a decision changes some thing's, but determination changes everything.

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      • #4
        Cimarron- I whole kindheartedly agree with your views. I am all for service to the country, but these old farts are only truly looking out for themselves and their support fundage. 30+ years is far too long for someone to serve.

        It is going to take us revolutionary thinking and sacrifice to get us out before a SHTF all out problem arises. But I doubt the old folks home (75+ y/o crowd) on Capitol hill can do what is necessary.
        "Fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing"- Optimus Prime

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        • #5
          I am so happy they finally introduced this, as I have been waiting so eagerly. My number one complaint is that they just don't get enough of my money. I mean, I guess I can accept the slow pace they are spending money, accumulating debt, and what they are using it for. I don't think they have to be so ruthlessly efficient with the way they spend it all, but I can accept that. It is just that they only take one third of everything I make. Only one third? When I see someone in line, using their food stamp card get smokes, and they whip out that smart phone to answer the call, I just can't be certain that it was my money that helped pay for it. That has been driving me crazy. Now I can give them all I have left over, after the bills are paid, whoohooo! Someone in Washington finally got it right.

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