Thoughts on dogs

[Urban Survivalist]

Its bad to say but I ate dog in Korea in 95 and it wasn't bad. I accually thought about ordering seconds. Not cool being a dog lover but I'm just saying.

Now in the paw people will abandon their beloved pets and that may be whats for dinner.

[Matt In Oklahoma]

Its bad to say but I ate dog in Korea in 95 and it wasn't bad. I accually thought about ordering seconds. Not cool being a dog lover but I'm just saying.
Now in the paw people will abandon their beloved pets and that may be whats for dinner.

Yep, still havent tried cat yat though

[Yeti]

My animals are in my prep plan. They will eat just like I will eat. Simple as that.
They've been my loyal compainions for years, and will continue to be. Only one of them I didn't get as pure puppy or kitten straight from mama.

Strays become part of the supplementary diet if they are healthy enough ones that are agressive. Non-agressive ones, it will really depend on the situation.

[Pop_45]

Yep, still havent tried cat yat though

What, you don't like Chinese food?

[Matt In Oklahoma]

What, you don't like Chinese food?

No, it's just that the neighbors know me too well! LOL

[Briar Wabbit]

I would suggest a breed that is especially tasty ! (or will hunt rabbits, reliably ... or both).

I was just about to start a thread ... Dogs and Cats, YUM !

An excellent source of protien, but I would think that dog-meat would be much healthier ...
... Of course ... Guinea-Pigs are way better than (even) Rabbits.

Bugs and worms are "ok", I guess, in a pinch but, Dog-Rump, slow roasted would be far tastier and nutritionally superior.

Bugs and worms are lots of work, too, for little gain ... whereas, dogs will come right up to you.

Now ... If they are in a pack, and some of them split-off and start to circle behind you ... Well, they know that people can be tasty, too so, I hope you have a semi-auto or a good ladder handy ... Climb a tree ... SOMEthing.

It's a dog-eat-??? world, out there ! ... Or just an "Eat dog" world?

Point? ... Any protien, on the hoof/foot/paw, will be fair game (literally).

They do not call it The Zombie Apocalypse, for nothin' ... Canabalism will happen (has happened) ... dogs? ... less of a moral challenge, for me.

BTW, it is scientifically proven that ONE FULL THIRD of ALL mankind had a cannibalistic past (in their evolution) and that the whole of our current, global, human genetic stock came from less than 3.600 individual humans ... there was a serious "pinch-point", way back when.

Also, MUCH more recently ... Some island (can't remember which) was cut-off by ... hmmm ... was it the Japanese ? ... In WWII ? ... Anyway, some person once told me that their own granparents lived on an Island that was cut off from re-supply and that all the dogs and cats disappeared, within three months ...

... And, in a Siege, in China, LONG ago, starving mothers ...

MODERATOR EDITED- ALRIGHT, LET'S STOP PUSHING THE ENVELOPE HERE. TALKING ABOUT EATING DOGS IS ONE THING, THIS LAST SENTENCE, WHETHER HISTORICALLY ACCURATE FOR SOME CRAZY CHINKS OR NOT, IS NOT ACCEPTABLE HERE.

So ... I would consider a dog as potential food, if it is not providing me more food than it eats.

Don Johnson (the actor) did a GREAT movie, called "A Boy and His Dog", when he was very young ... A post apocalyptic film about a telepathic dog, and a rather dim young lad, who was his partner ... A girl from the government caves tried to lure the teen boy down to the caves as a sperm donor, and used sex to convince him to abandon the dog (his true life partner) ... In the end? ... The Boy (and his dog) ate the evil GF. Fitting and just ending.

I think the last line was the dog saying, (chuckling, via pyschic telepathy) to the boy ...
... "Yeah, but you have to admit, she had good taste!" ... haw-haw-etc.

[Briar Wabbit]

Sorry 'bout that ... and, yes, it was a very well documented historical account but I have no personal investment in offending moral sensibilities ... not at all ...
... I had just finished reading a thread about a movie/book called "The Road", before entering into THIS thread (I have not read the book or seen the movie, BTW) ... Anyway ... The subject of cannibalism and "uncoventional protien sources" often arises, when issues of extreme survival are discussed ... A great many references in (both) fiction and documentary literature and film/TV content ...
... BUT ... As the "Noob FAQ" states ... This is not a Public Forum and I do not have any "rights" here ... I am just fine, with all that, and am grateful to be welcome, so long as the subject at hand (S&P) can be (mostly) discussed, with practical effect.

Just for the record ... I do think the inevitable lowering of moral standards and behavior, by both people and "former" pets, is not only fair-game for frank and practical discussion ... but ... such discussions are (IMO) ESSENTIAL with regard to the psychological pre-innoculation against serious depression and desponency, if/when GOOD people are exposed to such demoralizing behavior and events ...
In simpler terms, what I am saying is that, if a good and moral person is able to discuss and to ponder such (very realistic and documented) eventualities and contingencies, then, they are less likely to become entirely dysfunctional, (i.e. not as badly shocked and demoralized), if and/or when they may witness such events and to make decisions and to recover their lucid composure, in the pursuit of their own survival.

Kids seem to love morbid stuff (flesh-eating zombies, etc.) in concept, much moreso than adults and they buy lots of zombie-fragging fps games to support this assertion ... Reality (rather than games) is another matter, tho, I'm sure.

Also ... I would hope ... That discussing these matters would, perhaps, allow some folks to re-consider what food sources might be acceptable, in a worst-case scenario ... The eating of domestic stray pets is (and has been historically shown/documented) to be a morally superior alternative to human cannibalism ... we should all agree on that.

So ... It would really not be a bad idea to "bone-up" (sorry) on which bugs (and which PARTS of which bugs) are most edible/palletable ... snakes ... frogs ... and even healthy, domesticated mammals ... and which parts of "said" are poisonous or not good to eat ... like removing the glands from a male goat's haunches before that meat is spoiled by post-mortem gland/musk secretions.

I understand that the OP is a pet-lover and that is really great ... to me, tho ... unless you are shelterring-in-place, on a robust and sustainable homestead, it would be almost naiive to consider which type of dog might be a good partner, unless, just maybe, that dog has a one-in-a-million talent at acquiring food or providing exceptional security ... I doubt it, in almost every case ... In a mobile situation (My belief) a canine would be a burden ... another mouth to feed ... another random factor, to deal with ... would more likely expose my position to predatory gangs, at the wrong moment, etc.

I might follow an animal to water, tho ... or use their behavior as clues to danger, like the sniper who spread rice, on the ground, near his hide, as an alarm system ... if the wild birds, that were eating that rice,"flushed" (took flight en masse), he knew an enemy was approaching from his rear.

Anyway ... The OP seemed to be laying out some "troll-bait" and I guess I could not resist ... sorry.

[Matt In Oklahoma]

More on unchecked dog populations

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/01/07/wild-dogs-reportedly-maul-kill-4-at-park-in-mexico-city/?test=latestnews

[Chief]

A little bit about dogs I have worked with.

Cur- is a good all around dog for homestead and security also good with kids. If you live in a pig populated state good on hunting them too, for both catch and sent dog. Good with kids.

Catahoula- It also is a good dog can be made into a herder good sent dog, also can be used for catch sent dog, more on the sent though. Also a good watch dog. Been known to also watch children like old mother hens, literally following them around

Pit- Good pig catch dog, except guard dog some tend to be on the quiet side. They will let their presence be known usually too late for intruder. Tough dog both mentally and physically, will protect people against 2 and 4 legged critters. They do not have a locking jaw though, it is just they will not let go. Just like Pete on the Little Rascals good with kids.

Trained to hunt pigs can bring in a lot of meat for you and the dogs. You can usually hunt them with only one or two people.

Deer hounds are good watch dogs except they tend to bark at both the 2 and 4 legged critters. The good thing about hounds there are some standard breeds like the Fox walker, Beagle Walker mix, short hair. Also your standard coon hounds like Blue Tick, redbone, and black and Tan. The one thing is running deer usually requires more people then hunting pigs. Also you have to make sure that they are trained to run deer, do not need a dog to run deer and then get caught up after a raccoon, or rabbit. Bad thing about a deer dog though is usually if you shoot the deer it runs off and dies, the dogs will run the deer and then as soon as they catch up to it and it is dead will break off and come back. We have lost some deer to this. In fact a nice 12 point this year. That is why I am thinking in investing in this next dog.

Blood hound and also shorthairs are good for blood trailing. I am by no means a expert but I am around some old timers who are and they will usually train a dog with the aptitude in one form of hunting, why I do not know but they do believe in specialists for a dog in a certain type of hunting. I am sure any of the above could be trained to trail a blood trail too, again though is the willingness.

Another thing to also remember is in the old days if a dog did not show that it had any hunting in it then they got ride of it. Usually with a bullet to the head, they just could not feed them. I have also seen a mutt that was a trailing and hog catching fool, looked like it had lab and bird dog in it.

These are the dogs I have experience with, so I will leave it to these breeds.