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  • #16
    Originally posted by Matt In Oklahoma View Post
    Ok they have about completed these cable barriers here. One area that remains under construction the other day had one of their workers pickup get stuck. They had to shut down the major highway to pull him out. This stretch has no exits so traffic backed up up 6 1/2 miles in the short time it took to throw on a chain and pull him out of the mud.
    I saw a huge pileup in florida on the national news the other day too where cable barriers were present and there was no place to go and no place to stage emergency vehicles etc.
    In the name of "safety" we have effectivley created a fatal funnel during bad weather such as snowstorms or attempts to get away from the tornando, traffic events or real emergencies that we must avoid in our planning.
    Thanks for the link to the free topos, Matt. I guess, if you have to, use alternative routes but reading these scenarios makes me more of a believer to already be living in your bol and not put your family in danger of facing other people on the road that are scared, crazy, dangerous or all of the above. We're not in the exact location or situation we wanted to be in but we're in a better location than most and will make our location work.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.

    Ronald Wilson Reagan (1911-2004)

    JOSEPH WAS A PREPPER!
    NOAH WAS A PREPPER!
    I'M A PREPPER TOO!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by JUSTIFIED View Post
      Thanks for the link to the free topos, Matt. I guess, if you have to, use alternative routes but reading these scenarios makes me more of a believer to already be living in your bol and not put your family in danger of facing other people on the road that are scared, crazy, dangerous or all of the above. We're not in the exact location or situation we wanted to be in but we're in a better location than most and will make our location work.
      There are too many variables to believe you can live in one place and never leave. Weather is one that we face, nuclear dangers, railroad spills, wildfires, etc etc not to mention manmade stuff. The mere fact that you might be somewhere else when IT happens may dictate that you make it back to the BOL. Very few live and work at the BOL and never leave and live life. I could be at a kids football game across the state, visitng relatives or away on business. Plan routes, fuel and hazards carefully even on small trips say maybe a weekend training session that one needed to drive back in and something happened even a tornado. I rememeber trying to get back in from National Guard training once and encountering 6 tornados during an outbreak. Wasnt sure i could make it but knew from radio traffic there was no going back where I came from because it was leveled. Knowledge of routes, a mostly full tank and a capable vehicle and a 45min trip was accomplished 4hrs later with little more than paint scatches
      Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence

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      • #18
        Somethig else a good set of maps helps withis IDing potential choke points or bottlenecks to travel. Could be a bridge, or a natural feature that limits movement either on or off a main road. Also when you consider longer travel times due to traffic congestion, think about increase fuel use for stop and go traffic.
        Survival question. What do I need most, right now?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Matt In Oklahoma View Post
          There are too many variables to believe you can live in one place and never leave. Weather is one that we face, nuclear dangers, railroad spills, wildfires, etc etc not to mention manmade stuff. The mere fact that you might be somewhere else when IT happens may dictate that you make it back to the BOL. Very few live and work at the BOL and never leave and live life. I could be at a kids football game across the state, visitng relatives or away on business. Plan routes, fuel and hazards carefully even on small trips say maybe a weekend training session that one needed to drive back in and something happened even a tornado. I rememeber trying to get back in from National Guard training once and encountering 6 tornados during an outbreak. Wasnt sure i could make it but knew from radio traffic there was no going back where I came from because it was leveled. Knowledge of routes, a mostly full tank and a capable vehicle and a 45min trip was accomplished 4hrs later with little more than paint scatches
          I should have clarified myself. We will make our location work unless, and until, it becomes impossible (for what ever reason) to stay there. At this point we only have one alternative location to retreat to (45 minutes of normal travel) and I'm very familiar with the back roads between here and there but I'm still going to take advantage of the topo map link you shared. I'm also printing out a one for my work area (80 square miles) and for our shopping area so I can study them and we'll be better prepared.

          Now if we're at one of you guy's houses and the shtf we'll just camp out and make a nuisance or ourselves....chuckle....
          Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.

          Ronald Wilson Reagan (1911-2004)

          JOSEPH WAS A PREPPER!
          NOAH WAS A PREPPER!
          I'M A PREPPER TOO!

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