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    In every forum and thread about bugging out on foot, one tends to see selected pieces of advice. Some gear related, some how-to’s and others just general observations. But several times, we see so called “myths” about bugging out on foot and the problems that can come from that. I’ve taken the liberty of looking at several items I consider to be “myths” about bugging out and attempted to problem solve through each of them. I ask questions in each that we all should be asking before making a plan to bug out.

    Myth #1: “I only have XX miles from my work to my home, I can do that easy.”

    With this myth prepper X knows a distance between their home and work which is a good thing. However, more often than not they hadn’t actually walked that specific distance. They are not typically taking into account the terrain, weather, seasonal factors and possibly hostile activity. How many have actually lugged a full BOB the distance between their work and home before? Not just the distance itself, but actually walked with their bug out gear from work to home? And lived out of their BOB along the way? Sure it is possible to go a straight line distance between point A and B. But more often than not, straight lines work great on a map. Plus the problems behind using roads. Sometimes roads cannot or should not be used. So for whatever distance you happen to be traveling, plan on double that amount.

    So if one is to say that to make it stick, one must actually get out and walk that distance with their BOB. Get dropped off at your place of work, sling up the BOB and walk the distance over your primary planned route and in the time and supplies allotted. And for ever one track you might have planned, plan on two alternates as well as creeks and streams can be flooded, roads impassable, and other factors out of your control. Walk the alternate and secondary routes as well, making notes on what hazards can come up and plan on the best route which might suit the time you really need it.

    Some things to look for. Are there spots to overnight along the way? What natural barriers are in my way? Do I have the tools and knowledge to overcome those obstacles? Are my maps current and taking into account things that might have changed since they were printed? Do I have enough supplies for an extended stay because weather or terrain slowed me down? Do I have the means to navigate without maps by using terrain association and/or compass headings? What areas do I want to avoid? What areas are safe?

    Myth #2: “Don’t wear military style packs/gear/clothing! It makes you a target!”

    A target for who specifically? Military gear is often cheaper, especially surplus and lot of folks use it whether they are civilian or former military or current military. An ALICE pack doesn’t make you any more of a target than say a red commercial Kelty pack. If you are in a situation where you will become a target from roving gangs or the like, it doesn’t matter if you have on an ALICE pack or the Kelty. A roving gang will only see “backpack” and wonder what you have inside. It might be valuable to them, might not. But the point is you might have more than they do and it makes you a target whether it’s a military pack or not.

    Now on the flip side, if you start to look like you are about to invade Fallujah, you might be a little wrong. Some have a way of overdoing things and wearing a full Multicam combat ensemble with a full combat pack and a long gun will probably get you noticed by not only gangs who could want your weapons and stash, but also by law enforcement who could consider you a threat. Achieve a careful balance between practicality and functionality. Cargo type pants, whether they are surplus BDU or commercial khakis are generally not looked at any more than blue jeans. The same goes for packs. When bugging out on foot (think NOLA) it doesn’t matter if it’s a military pack or a civilian pack. More often than not, one would look and think “person with a pack” rather than “person with a pack…bet they are military and have all sorts of goodies because it happens to be a military style pack.”

    So to overcome this myth, one had to ask what purpose you have for bugging out. Does your pack have the cargo space needed for your trip? Does it stand out? Do I have a long gun strapped to the outside that will draw more attention? Is the clothing I have going to provide me concealment along with being functional? Will khaki cargo pants and an earth tone shirt work or do I need the concealment of actual camouflage?

    Myth #3: The availability of water.

    More often than not, our BOBs have a way of gathering water and filtering/purifying it. And we have a way of carrying said water. And more often than not, we plan on having sufficient water supplies on our route of travel. But do we take into account the seasonal differences when we plan to bug out? Streams can dry up during drought conditions as well as freeze over during the winter. Do you have a way of melting snow and filtering it into potable water? Do you have enough capacity to carry extended water supplies in case the distance between known sources is greater than planned? Sure some folks tend to think they can use the black trash bag method to generate water from dew to survive, but is it enough when you are carrying a pack as well as moving?

    And in conjunction with Myth #1, have you walked the distance between point A and B and figured out what water supplies are on hand? Are the streams sufficiently clean enough to filter water and away from known pollution sources (such as factories, animal grazing areas, dumps, etc) which could contaminate even clear water and slow your bug out by getting you sick? Will the streams be frozen during winter and force you to spend additional time thawing out ice to make water? Do you have enough storage in your BOB to make it between water sources without having to go without? Is a 100 ounce water bladder good enough or should you think about adding another liter bottle as a backup?

    Myth #4: Slaying the zombie hordes.

    Let’s face it, what good is a bug out bag unless we have enough ammo to fight off the raging zombie hordes coming to eat our brain? Or the fact many of us carry enough ammo to fight our way into trouble, but rarely enough to fight our way out? Far too often, BOBs are filled with more than sufficient ammunition. But when bugging out on foot, we need to think strategically and tactically at the same time. Bugging out typically means you are heading for a prepared retreat or a place of safety where you can be resupplied at will and the thousands of rounds you have stored will come into good use. That’s strategic thinking. Get from point A to point B.

    But the problem is we plan on fighting the last battle of good versus evil during our bug out. When is enough ammo too much ammo? I.E. ten loaded magazines with another hundred loose rounds for reloads.

    To think of bugging out on foot, especially solo, one has to think of being tactically minded. Concealment and running away from problems are sometimes the best ideas you can have. Hide from danger, but if you are confronted, plan on using every single round to the best potential and not wasting any. Think sniper when firing rounds at a potential enemy. You don’t have to put them down for good, but a wounding shot will stop or slow them down just as effectively as a kill shot. Military scouts don’t get into firefights because they typically don’t want to attract the attention. But they will fight if they have to and bloody the nose of the enemy enough to slow them down. And afterwards, slink away and hide before moving to safety. This is tactical thinking and we should be emulating it.

    One should look at the amount of ammo and decide whether or not it is enough or too much. I can’t make that determination for you and each person had to decide what’s best for them. But the biggest thing I have seen is the fact some like to overindulge on the ammo stores and let other areas slip past them. Have enough ammo to get yourself out of trouble if a fight is picked with you. Don’t go around picking fights you don’t need to be involved in.

    Some questions that have to be asked. Do you have enough ammo to be able to break contact and get away if attacked? What kind of enemies will you be facing? What are the odds of you breaking contact without firing a shot? Can you conceal yourself enough to get away (Myth #2) if you are being pursued? Am I carrying too much ammo and not enough food/water/shelter/clothing? Am I carrying enough of the aforementioned food/water/clothing/shelter and still too much ammo? How far will I need to travel and are my ammo stores enough to get me by? Do I fire well enough with my weapons system to be able to break contact without wasting ammo? Should I get into a prolonged firefight with a group or attempt to evade as best as possible? Are there areas of natural cover and concealment along my chosen route of travel (Myth #1) that I can hide or defend from? Should I make a stand or keep running?

    Plan for action, but also plan for inaction. Bugging out solo can present many tactical problems, but most of them can be overcome by proper planning and preset evasion drills. But also, preset battle drills to make an attacker (or attackers) back off and rethink the idea of attacking you.

    Myth #5: The minimalist BOB.

    Another myth is the minimalist BOB we see from time to time. “I can shove everything into a Camelbak MULE and be just fine!” Okay, for experienced preppers and those that can get by with just a Swiss Army Knife, duct tape and a toothbrush, that’s wonderful. But more often than not, with minimalist kit things are missing. Essential things? Absolutely. Think cold weather gear for starters. Sure not all of us are in climates that require cold weather gear, but enough of us are in places where we would need such things during different seasons. Or redundant items that are critical to the success of bugging out on foot. Water purification for example. If the awesome Katadyn mini filter suddenly becomes contaminated, what are our options for back up?

    We can (and often do in the beginning stages of preparedness) tend to go overboard on our kit, but some items are required to be redundant. And do we have enough space to cram in additional water purification tabs? Or a stove to boil water? Or a container to boil water in if our filter cannot be used? Or in the case of tabs, a container to let them purify before adding it into the hydration bladder?

    One must be careful to carry enough items along with the alternate items just in case. But one has to also be careful in carrying too much. More often than not, minimalist BOBs are seen with those that don’t have a great distance to travel from point A to B. But are they taking into account the journey (Myth #1) between A and B? What items are missing and what would be necessary on an unplanned extended trip?

    Myth #6: The vacuum packed BOB.

    “My BOB has vacuum packed clothing and other odds and ends.” Okay, great for packing, but also horrible for packing as two things happen. First, some of those items are hard to get to in a hurry if you really need them. Second, once the vacuum sealing is destroyed, try cramming everything back into your pack (assuming it’s packed tight to being with) and heading along. While it can and does have its place, be careful not to overindulge in the vacuum sealing of things like clothing. Sure enough it works like a charm when packing, but when unpacked? A whole different story. Your BOB should contain enough room to pack in unsealed items as well as sealed items. Pack it both ways and if there is extra space, there is extra space and who cares?

    Vacuum sealing is a double edged sword and one that any prepper should think through smartly before employment. Once the sealing is destroyed, are the contents now at risk of being damaged by rain and snow? Do you have a backup plan for resealing the contents like Zip-Lock bags? Do I have enough room to pack away items without having to seal them? Is my pack big enough to account for bulky clothing items that are unsealed? Should I just use a regular Zip-Lock bag and forgo the vacuum sealing?

    Just a few things to think of when getting out the food preserver and packing away kit that could be essential and/or too bulky to repack.

    These are just some of the things that I’ve seen over the years when discussing bugging out on foot. And more to the point, these are personal observations of mine that your individual mileage might vary on. Some will agree and others disagree, but when bugging out on foot, several factors have to be taken into account on. Where you are headed, how long it will take, what weather/seasonal changes you might encounter and personal preference on gear to be taken.
    Experience is a cruel teacher, gives the exam first and then the lesson.

  • #2
    Great post!

    One of my pet peeves with "the BOB" is the use of single use items where it really isn't necessary.

    Yes that single use, alcohol prep pad size thing of toothpaste does save you 3.5 ounces over a travel size thing of toothpaste. However what if things go longer than you planned? We all seem to have a time horizon with our BOB's. Like "well it's 20 miles home so I only need a couple days worth of stuff." Yet stuff happens.

    Some things can be found, foraged and replaced. Food being one of them. However I have yet to see a wild toothpaste plant growing in the woods. Sure you can substitute stuff (baking soda, salt, scraping, etc.) but you see my point.

    We get too crazy with the "save an ounce" deal. That idea has been adulterated just like "store what you eat, eat what you store" has. That had a different meaning originally- that was to remind people to eat their storage wheat, beans, rice, etc. Now a days people think it means "store trash food like you eat everyday now."

    In the same context the "save an ounce" deal started with military guys trying to save weight on sundry items so that they could carry more ammo. It was never so that you went in the field un or UNDER prepared because you weren't willing to work out or actually carry your pack regularly. It meant "man if I can ditch this big ole sleeping bag for a smaller lightweight one, I can fit another claymore in my pack (military context)."

    The "best laid plans of mice and men." You might have to live out of your pack a LOT longer than just a day or two getting home. What if home is leveled when you do arrive there? Suddenly your going to regret all the little corners cut in your ruck.
    Boris- "He's famous, has picture on three dollar bill!"

    Rocky- "Wow! I've never even seen a three dollar bill!"

    Boris- "Is it my fault you're poor?"

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    • #3
      Some good points all around. Funny, this is a subject that I've been wanting to do a thread on for a while now. Looks like you beat me to it.

      Below are a few thoughts on my own, in relation to some specific points.

      [QUOTE=Grand58742;10693]Myth #2:
      Last edited by Hawkeye; 02-15-2011, 03:10 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 1Admin View Post
        Great post!
        We get too crazy with the "save an ounce" deal. That idea has been adulterated ................
        Agreed. Your setting yourself up for failure in my opinion. That said, I am not one to advocate trying to pack the kitchen sink either. Part of this I think, goes back to the whole issue of being ABLE to carry some weight, for some distance. This means people have to do two things many seem to, for whatever reason, not want to do.....they have to get in better shape, and they have to get good equipment.

        In the same context the "save an ounce" deal started with military guys trying to save weight on sundry items so that they could carry more ammo. It was never so that you went in the field un or UNDER prepared because you weren't willing to work out or actually carry your pack regularly. It meant "man if I can ditch this big ole sleeping bag for a smaller lightweight one, I can fit another claymore in my pack (military context)."
        Exactly


        The "best laid plans of mice and men." You might have to live out of your pack a LOT longer than just a day or two getting home. What if home is leveled when you do arrive there? Suddenly your going to regret all the little corners cut in your ruck.
        And again....exactly. Things are doubtfully going to go as well as we plan for them to.

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        • #5
          Outstanding reply Haweye. Certainly gives one more to think about.
          Experience is a cruel teacher, gives the exam first and then the lesson.

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          • #6
            good post.
            On the weight.
            When folks ask why i use a tarp set up vs tent i try and use this example ( like the claymore one).
            A tent weighs 4-6lbs( even a solo bivy tent weighs over 3lbs)
            Thats- 4 lbs. of extra water, food,ammo or equipment you can carry.
            Least that is the way i see it. Is every OZ of BS i shave off that leaves more room for the extras i need..not that i want.


            It isnt un common for me when i host my hikes to have my pack set up for 3 days at 25-28lbs. But, by the time i add extra medical gear,extra comms gear,extra water .to be prepared for "what if's" on the trail with new hikers.... im right back at 38-40lbs. Which is fine by me...helps me lose LBs where they need to be lost...on the waist line! :)


            i have seen where folks lose track, and skimp on gear to save weight . There is a major difference between cutting weight with newer,lighter gear to save lbs verse cutting out gear to save it.

            good thread.
            Last edited by protus; 02-15-2011, 12:39 PM. Reason: ham and chesse
            Hey Petunia...you dropped your man pad!

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            • #7
              Good thread. In addition, perhaps we should look at possible cache sites along your E&E route. Not to mention around your AO. Standard U/W technique that is very applicable to our situation.

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              • #8
                Although I would like to comment on each of your myths, I feel like crap tonight. Must have been the chicken. :(

                But I will comment on why "I" do not wear camo. The main reason is, I do not live in a forest. :) But on a more scientific level, I buy solid dark colors (mostly black) because of what is know as an item's "light reflection level". You see, my black becomes "invisible" up to an hour before sundown and usually up to 30 minutes after dawn. My key movement period when SHTF is night. Why? Well for one, most gangs will consist of non-disciplined punks (bullies), and their night operations if any, will be most likely positional. Why do I say this? Well, if SHTF truely, they will be our looters, and rapists. They will conduct these things in the luxury of daylight, since the absence of law enforcement will be obvious to them first. (note: there are several youtube videos showing the cops in new orleans turning to the looters almost immediately after a crisis-while in uniform)

                I have come up with several methods to "downplay" my existence. Have any of you ever heard of a belly pack? I know I know, of course you have. OK, I have experimented until I came up with a nice size belly back with the contours of a fat man. That and an oversized, one fits all t-shirt (dark color of course) takes me from a guy with a pack = items, possibly food or ammo, to a fat guy scrounging around the streets looking for a rat to eat.

                I took the lesson seriously, when told the best Ninja is the ninja who can hide in plain sight, and nobody ever expect he is the murderer amongst them. :)

                But let me finish by saying, GREAT POST, and GREAT REPLIES, I expect nothing less from you guys. You are all awesome!!

                Well, just wanted to put in my two copper pieces.

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                • #9
                  Excellent thread with some great points. My BOB definitely changes with the seasons. My hike home at the moment would be 11 miles with 4 streams and 80% concealment by trees. But, this is the country and I know I would have to encounter some protective homeowners along the way. That break down AR-7 is on my wish list for seriousness.!!!!
                  You know what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like this?

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                  • #10
                    Great info!
                    Last edited by guardian; 02-16-2011, 11:51 AM.
                    Preparing for the worst...praying for the best!

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