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    Hypothetical here. You're at work, or school, or whereever. It's the end of the day, and about 10 minutes from the stampede to get out of there. Suddenly, all the lights go out, and every machine in the place stops working. You drag out your cell phone, and notice that you not only have no bars, you have zilch. It won't light up at all. You know what's happened, but it's likely nobody else there does.

    What do you do? Do you try to explain what happened to everyone else there? Do you quietly go for the parking lot to get your GMHB? Should we try to explain what happens with a massive EMP event?

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    Originally posted by Bearman202 View Post
    Hypothetical here. You're at work, or school, or whereever. It's the end of the day, and about 10 minutes from the stampede to get out of there. Suddenly, all the lights go out, and every machine in the place stops working. You drag out your cell phone, and notice that you not only have no bars, you have zilch. It won't light up at all. You know what's happened, but it's likely nobody else there does.

    What do you do? Do you try to explain what happened to everyone else there? Do you quietly go for the parking lot to get your GMHB? Should we try to explain what happens with a massive EMP event?
    go quietly to the car and set in mile long parking lots on the rd with the people who do know what has happened,(thats if any autos will even start) the ones who don't know whats happening haven't been paying attention to what been going on in the world today and has been brought to everyones attention on 60 minutes and other programs from time to time in the past couple yrs.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bearman202 View Post
      Hypothetical here. You're at work, or school, or whereever. It's the end of the day, and about 10 minutes from the stampede to get out of there. Suddenly, all the lights go out, and every machine in the place stops working. You drag out your cell phone, and notice that you not only have no bars, you have zilch. It won't light up at all. You know what's happened, but it's likely nobody else there does.

      What do you do? Do you try to explain what happened to everyone else there? Do you quietly go for the parking lot to get your GMHB? Should we try to explain what happens with a massive EMP event?

      we joked around at work about this.....once verified ( aka 3 of us going yip, no watch,phone, tv,cpu,work tools,planes falling from the sky) that its grab what we may need and remove ourselves from the AO. But due to my AO i think i'll be doing a mogadisho mile to get home...LOL
      Hey Petunia...you dropped your man pad!

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      • #4
        I would head for home! However, according to the web, a human can walk 3 miles an hour. Now, if you have a bad knee or what ever, it's probably less. So, if you lived 20 miles from work, it would take you 6 to 7 hours to get home.

        The next consideration is where are your loved ones. I have no children at home, and our plan is to meet at home, so I would expect my husband to walk also. The only problem I have is my mother. She may be 86 and walks with a cane, but she drives. I just hope she's home when it happens, as she walks so sloooooooooooow she'd never make it home.

        Once I get home, I'd hunker down. With no information, you'd be acting in instinct. So hunkering down is the option I'd choose.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bearman202 View Post
          Hypothetical here. You're at work, or school, or whereever. It's the end of the day, and about 10 minutes from the stampede to get out of there. Suddenly, all the lights go out, and every machine in the place stops working. You drag out your cell phone, and notice that you not only have no bars, you have zilch. It won't light up at all. You know what's happened, but it's likely nobody else there does.

          What do you do? Do you try to explain what happened to everyone else there? Do you quietly go for the parking lot to get your GMHB? Should we try to explain what happens with a massive EMP event?
          Depends on who you work with and such. You may or may not want to take valuable time to explain things to folks. But for me, yeah, get my stuff and hit the road, ASAP.

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          • #6
            Hit the road and aint saying nothing, but if I was with someone who was capable but wasnt a believer till that moment i might make a hasty descision to take them with me for the firepower as P stated for the mog mile
            Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence

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            • #7
              This is why I HATE the no guns in a school building law. I am too responsible to lock it in my F150 (pretty high up there on the most wanted trucks), so I go to class with my rod (.45acp) and staff (.338 federal) sitting where they are very efficient wall dressings and paperweights (at home **cry** )

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              • #8
                I attend a college and am taking night classes. I have noticed that the place doesn't even have emergency lighting. I was just sitting around playing 'what if' and that one came up. I am attending a women's college, (the local BSU, (big state university) just wasn't a good fit for me, and the women's college accepted me, and they've got a decent program...) and in looking around it's pretty obvious that not many of them would have a clue what was happening. I'm thinking that it wouldn't cost me anything to briefly explain to the others what had happened. Why wouldn't you tell people? I think I could do it in a way that prevented panic, but I'm not sure. I mean, when we walk out of the building it's going to be a rack-break, with everyone going in different directions. Why not tell them?

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                • #9
                  @Bearman202: i would say one reason not to tell them is the "panic factor" most people can pull off the look of competency, but when SHTF their true colors show, and if you act (or even worse speak) like you know whats going on there are two outcomes that you should fear:

                  1) How do YOU know what is going on, she is part of it, shes a terrorist!!

                  2) WOW she knows what she is talking about, I am sticking with HER, whether she wants me to or NOT!!

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                  • #10
                    For some reason the conversation between my son and I (many many moons ago) came to mind: "Daddy, why does a Ninja have to learn how to wear a suit and tie?".... "Because a true master assassin learns the most important thing to do is to BLEND INTO HIS SURROUNDINGS"

                    That is what I would do in a SHTF scenario... do everything I can to NOT look like I know what I was doing so people would never even give me a second look, thats right, nothing here to see, keep moving... **and the Ninja slowly conceals his throwing darts he has removed from the rear of his target's skull, and slips into the alley unnoticed by all**

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Klayton View Post
                      @Bearman202: i would say one reason not to tell them is the "panic factor" most people can pull off the look of competency, but when SHTF their true colors show, and if you act (or even worse speak) like you know whats going on there are two outcomes that you should fear:1) How do YOU know what is going on, she is part of it, shes a terrorist!!2) WOW she knows what she is talking about, I am sticking with HER, whether she wants me to or NOT!!
                      Totally agreed unless you wanna look like the pied piper with a bunch of leach zombies on your 6. Instinct is to try and save EVERYONE, which I'm guilty of too, which is why you don't see me on tv survivor but the day of SHTF you are gonna have to make some real fast real hard decisions for your safety and the safety of your family. If they havent listened for years what makes you think they are gonna suddenly start anyway, they will just wring their hands and hope "someone" probaly from the government will "help". Unless there is someone that can help you accomplish what you need then they are gonna be on the outs till the mission of staying alive is accomplished.
                      I USED TO BE a Plt Sgt but now I'm not and saving folks around you, it's a hard habit to break, but OPSEC is also a hard habit so EMP day, I aint saying nothing, just moving fast and low to the house collecting anything of value along the way, making mental notes of possible left behind resources, then going to red dawn, defcon 4, friggen tremors bugin!
                      Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence

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                      • #12
                        Well, if it happened at work, I would be up the creek. We live in a rural area, but not having quite attained retirement age I still commute 36miles (one way) into a crime ridden part of Jacksonville, Fla. Walking home is out of the question, at least short term. I am armed, of course, but I'd much rather be very low profile.
                        Now, if it happened at night or a weekend we'd be ok for several months.
                        My one serious chink in the armor is our water supply is a deep well in the yard. I need to get some kind of solar set up, but life keeps getting in the way.
                        "There is nothing so exhilarating as to be shot at without result." Winston Churchill
                        Member: Veterans of Foreign Wars, Vietnam Veterans of America, American Legion, AMVETS, Society of the Fifth Infantry Division

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                        • #13
                          I am still not convinced that EMP is a viable threat. Lots being said about it, but there has been virtually nothing does with regards to testing to see if could even happen on anything more than a limited area basis.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by knocky View Post
                            I am still not convinced that EMP is a viable threat. Lots being said about it, but there has been virtually nothing does with regards to testing to see if could even happen on anything more than a limited area basis.
                            Not sure the house will ever burn neither but .........
                            If it's not a viable threat then why is every agency sweating it. It only takes a small plane and a dity bomb and there WILL be some EMP. I have no idea what the threat is either but..
                            Knowledge is Power, Practiced Knowledge is Strength, Tested Knowledge is Confidence

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                            • #15
                              You remember that cloud of dust the Roadrunner left when he split? I would resemble that to a T.
                              You know what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like this?

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