DRY ICE!! I found it!!

[Klayton]

Hey guys, I may have found where all these "people" are getting the "Dry Ice" suggestion?!?!?! :confused:

Chapter 9 of one of the random government survival guides I have, Chapter 9 titled as "FOOD" but alas no other titles can be found anywhere. But I thought you guys might want to see where "maybe" some people are getting this advice.

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[Klayton]

ahh come on, why cant I ever get these photo links to work?

[Tofu]

Here ya go:

[1Admin]

Yep, and watch out for T-Rex and the Brontosaurus behind you while doing it. ;)

Cause about the only ones that still use dry ice are other dinosaurs.

Still no oxygen barrier using this method. All your doing is displacing SOME of the oxygen CURRENTLY in the bucket. However we have shown on video that a bucket by itself is NOT an adequate long term oxygen barrier.

The important thing to note is where they say -
"after one month, all INSECTS in this carbon dioxide atmosphere will have died from lack of oxygen."

The original intent of this method was for FUMIGATION purposes.

[Klayton]

@1Admin: yes I know,,, I was just trying to show you guys one possible source of the "use Dry Ice'...

:(

[monkeybird]

Be careful with dry ice. Regardless of what you use it for - it will burn. During the 50's and early 60's it was used medically to 'burn' off things like raised birth marks. Some people use it at halloween to make 'smoke' come out of there witches brew.

I can't imagine using it in 2011. It's like burning candles in the dark, when there is a light switch at hand.

[Lowdown3]

Realize that Klayton, thanks for posting it.

Often times what happens is that bad information is parroted over and over and over and over for decades. It's kinda like the "bay leaves keep bugs away" Bravo Sierra.

I've posted pics on the net before of weevils riding on bay leaves in a bucket of grits that was teeming with weevils.

[Klayton]

monekybird, dry ice is actually used EVERY DAY still... when transporting mixed loads (dry, chilled, and frozen) the grocery truck will run his refer unit for the chill, and the frozen will be in a huge pallet container full of dry ice. :)

Its also how we transport certain medical "items" we use for research. :)

[Monel]

Be careful with dry ice. Regardless of what you use it for - it will burn. During the 50's and early 60's it was used medically to 'burn' off things like raised birth marks. Some people use it at halloween to make 'smoke' come out of there witches brew.

I can't imagine using it in 2011. It's like burning candles in the dark, when there is a light switch at hand.

Dry ice will not burn. It is CO2, the same thing that is in some fire extinguishers. However, you could freeze skin if you bring it in contact. The idea of using it to fumigate buckets of grain or other things is sound. And not really dangerous. Carbon dioxide (CO2) is heavier than air so it will sink in the bucket and displace the oxygen. Without oxygen bugs cannot live. O2 absorbers do the same thing much easier. The air we breath is 70% CO2. When the O2 absorbers do their thing what you have left is mostly the CO2. No bugs! The danger with using dry ice would be from sealing it in before it all changes to gas. It will expand causing pressure and could cause a container to burst. If you really wanted to go over the top you could use dry ice to purge the container then add an O2 absorber also. Using dry ice is not really a "bad" idea. It has been made unnecessary now because we now have O2 absorbers.

[monkeybird]

It's called freezer burn! Dry Ice does indeed 'burn' the skin.

[Monel]

I get what you are saying, but I think we should try to be clear in the information we present here. You have to know that someone will read that it will "burn" and believe it will catch fire. Sorry, I"m not trying to be argumentative. I just want the information to be clearly understood by anyone who happens by. I am sure that if we had no O2 absorbers everyone would be using dry ice in the proscribed manor.